Alan discovered a really cool Notes 8 feature...
There is no "Reply To All"!That's right -- if you are bcc:d on an e-mail, you won't find "reply to all" in the action buttons while in the mail message. As is pointed out in the comments on Alan's site, you'll still see reply to all when in the inbox, but not in the mail message itself.
So now in Notes 8 when you are Bcc'd on an email, you can no longer emabarrsingly reply to everyone, considering they (everyone but the original sender) did not know you recieved the email in the first place!
This should cut down on those embarrassing moments where someone who gets a bcc decides they want to share some feedback :-)
Link: Alan Lepofsky: Saving Yourself From BCC Mistakes! >
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Mike Lazar | 10/18/2007 3:31:37 PM
Ed -- Are we sure about that? I think I mentioned a recent time where it didn't work. Is that due to the SMTP routing? It didn't show me as BCC'd, but I wasn't in the CC field, either. Unfortunately, I was able to reply to all.
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Sean Burgess http://www.phigsaidwhat.com/ | 10/18/2007 3:34:47 PM
@1 That's the very reason why I created the ASND Mass Mailer { Link } . It takes away the possibility of people sending reply to all emails for company wide notices.
The only thing worse than someone replying to all on one of those emails is when people then reply to all telling the first guy they shouldn't use reply to all on company wide emails.
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Steven | 10/18/2007 3:56:14 PM
@1: Then there are the folks who "accidently" make their size column narrow and never notice that the message they are about to reply-to-all is a 15,550,000 byte message. "Hey it only says 50,000 bytes, not too big!"
Did we get size column yet that can figure out if needs to say Bytes, KB, or MB dynamically? (Hey wasn't that in cc:Mail?)
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ME | 10/18/2007 4:11:28 PM
I used to work for a company that went through big efforts to remove bcc from the mail template alltogether. I think that was a great approach - who needs bcc in the first place?
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 10/18/2007 4:27:08 PM
@2 still can't explain that one...maybe something about the SMTP at one end or the other.
@5 I think bcc is a reality...without it, people will forward sent messages, resulting in two messages where only one was needed in the system.
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Steven | 10/18/2007 4:35:25 PM
OK Ed, see what happened... You suggested I look into Notes 8 Basic and I don't see the great new size column on Notes 8 Standard with the mail8.ntf! I think my list of cc:Mail feature is almost entirely exhausted. Way to go Mary Beth!!!
BTW... Notes 8 Standard is blazingly fast on my 2x AMD Dual Core with 4GBs of RAM.
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Richard Schwartz http://www.rhs.com/poweroftheschwartz | 10/18/2007 7:23:01 PM
@2: There are two ways you can be a bcc of an SMTP message. You can be listed in the Bcc header, or you can be listed in no header at all. Delivery is not controlled by headers; it is controlled by the RCPT TO command issued to the SMTP server.
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Carl Tyler http://www.iminstant.com | 10/18/2007 7:59:24 PM
@6 I agree BCC is here to stay, I find it most useful when communicating with customers, BCC sales folks or a customer tracking DB on the communication.
"without it, people will forward sent messages, resulting in two messages where only one was needed in the system."
If it was a single object store mail system I'd think this is fair enough, with Notes though, I'm not sure how much that really matters with most people giving users their own nsf each.
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 10/18/2007 8:42:36 PM
@9 it matters because it's two transactions versus one through the mail router, compliance system, etc. Wasn't just a single object store consideration.
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David Bell | 10/18/2007 10:39:10 PM
Is it not more important to restrict it at the view / folder level where you do not have any visibility that you were in the bcc field ?
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John Turnbow http://www.navasota-unified.com | 10/19/2007 7:21:58 AM
DUH! Just my opinion, that's the way it should have always been.
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Mark Jourdain removed :-) | 10/19/2007 3:34:12 PM
@4 - Did we get size column yet that can figure out if needs to say Bytes, KB, or MB dynamically?
Yes, that is a view column property in Domino Designer 8.
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Ian Scott | 10/31/2007 6:32:43 AM
@5 - bcc is invaluable when sending out external email messages to hundreds of people whose email addresses we don't want to divulge. If we didn't have bcc I'd be asking for it.
Nah. It's not the Reply to All on the BCCs that kill me.
It's the Reply to All on the company wide notices that kill me!
Double brownie points when it includes a 10M attachment!