Ed Brill

Update on Lotus Notes 6.5 for Mac install

December 9 2005

A couple of weeks ago, when my Macintosh arrived, I had trouble installing Lotus Notes. After blogging about it, and a number of internal discussions, I've learned that
a) several other customers have had the same install challenges, and
b) the Notes development team is aware of some of the challenges and is solving them.

Development (thanks to more than one person who contacted me) says that Notes 6.5.5 for Mac, already in beta, will be released on the web with a .sea (self extracting application) extension rather then the .hqx (which requires stuffit).

I'll have more updates on this when I get around to installing Notes 6.5.5 beta code, sometime next week.

Ed Brill | Highland Park, IL USA Category: Machead Add/View Comments [21]

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1 David Vasta david.davidandkelly.com | 12/9/2005 1:56:09 PM
What About Notes 7 for Mac? I am glad that they are working on 6.5.5 but really should there not be a 7 too?

2 Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 12/9/2005 2:10:31 PM
As has been previously announced, the plan is for a Notes 7 for Mac at a maintenance release, probably 7.0.2.

3 Volker Weber http://vowe.net | 12/9/2005 3:24:52 PM
Yes, a .sea will work so much better. Sigh. Any chance of fixing the installer as well?

And more important yet: Any change the 7.0.something client, will that install stuff where it belongs? For instance, will it keep ./data out of the /Applications tree?

4 Mike Brown | 12/9/2005 3:32:25 PM
We should have had a whip 'round years ago to buy Ed a Mac!

Cheers,

- Mike

5 Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 12/10/2005 7:10:02 AM
@4 To be fair, development was already working on this before I joined the Mac crowd.

@3 I'll see what I can find out.

6 Andy Dennis | 12/10/2005 7:42:46 AM
At last, getting rid of the pain of stuffit expander, which refuses to work on my ibook.. I had to download it to a pc, decompress it using stuffit for windows, zip the directory (thanks for the tip Volker!) and then download it to my ibook..

Also, what about sametime for the mac or are we still going to be using Adium!

7 norm Van Bergen | 12/10/2005 8:29:28 PM
@6 - I understand ST 7.0 works on the Mac. Not a native executable mind you, but a Java connect client that you can d/l and run anytime.

8 Nick Halliwell www.comware.net | 12/10/2005 9:39:12 PM
Ed, its really simple. One of my friends just got a new Mac and went along to PanTip Plaza (IT Mall in Bangkok), he purchased a $2.5 copy of Notes 6.5 for Mac (Don't worry he works for a very large US based company that has a corporate licence that specifically give him a licence at home) He installed it with out any of the problems that you detailed. He had also read your article and was somewhat nervous about the installation. But he clicked on the install icon on the CD and 10 minuets later he was running. He would be happy to provide IBM with as many correctly installing CD's as they wish to purchase (:>).

Nick

9 Jef www.palantir.be | 12/12/2005 2:15:24 AM
Volker I'm pretty sure that during the installation of my 6.5.3 on my iBook I got prompted where to put the data folder ...

10 Anthony Pope | 12/12/2005 9:18:18 AM
@4) I'm very tempted to send IBM support a Mac. Although IBM technically do support the MAC client don't actually have access to MAC's on which to test or confirm Mac based problems. Recently I've been asked to send screen shots of a Mac Preferences file, why? Because the support team cannot open the preferences file sent on a PC!

@5) Ed, whilst you are in investigating mode. Are there any support people who can directly support the MAC client? If so any chance can you send me their number. They will be very very popular.

11 KMills | 12/21/2005 11:30:15 PM
With the .sea file you have to right click the file. Select the option to install the Installer program. Don't select the other options under neath the Installer option in the drop list.

If you try to drop the .sea file on stuffit you will be prompted for a password.

The interface is better or sharper than before. I am running - 10.4.3. I would suggest that everyone read the release notes regarding issues with the Mac Notes client.

12 Stéphane Grienenberger | 12/29/2005 10:39:38 AM
Hi Ed,

Did you hear anything about a designer client 7.0.x for Mac ? IBM stopped this with 5.0.12 or 13, no ?

Thanks a lot !

13 Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 12/29/2005 1:45:31 PM
There is no plan for Domino Designer for Mac.

14 Van www.dominokeys.com | 12/30/2005 6:04:22 PM
Noooooo. My hopes and dreams (for a Designer/Admin Mac client of 7) have been crushed!

Lotusphere 2005 Flashback (I forgot what session):

The audience applauded louder at improvements announced for the Mac than they did improvements for Linux... prompting the speakers to say "Wait, are we to understand you're more excited about this all working on a Mac?!"

I shall hope for a repeat of that in '06. :-)

15 Vadim Rumyantsev | 1/12/2006 8:05:23 AM
Are there any plans to to fix incorrect cyrillic codepage for upcoming Notes Mac client v8? It's impossible to use Notes/Mac with russian language since it's broken in v5.0 (see SPR WVHM5ZTCB6 and more comments in Partner Forum 2005).

16 Paul Gagnon www.nortonlamb.com | 4/10/2006 10:53:14 AM
6.5.5 works nice on Mac, can't wait for 7!

@2, Ed, any word on whether we'll see the Notes Mac client at 7.0.2 release? Forgive me if I missed it elsewhere.

I see that 7.0.2 is planned for a September 2006 release:

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17 Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 4/10/2006 11:04:10 AM
Yes, Notes 7 for Mac will ship with 7.0.2.

18 smoothape http://www.smoothape.com | 5/24/2006 9:47:12 AM
The First Mac client in ages is the 7.0.2 to be released around September. No designer or admin for Mac though. Bummer. So buy an intel mac, dual boot to XP or Vista (when it eventually comes out too) then do your work.

19 David Vasta david.davidandkelly.com | 5/24/2006 10:38:47 AM
@18 & Ed

Hey look someone else gets it too...Although he is not saying it as loud as I am. Lotus has dropped the ball on the Mac Client. Plain and Simple. I have a new 17" Powerbook on my desk and the replication is killing me. 900MB mail file and it has taken three days to get it down. That's right 3 8 hour days to get it down from a server that is not 30 feet from it right now over a 100MB swtiched line. I have 24 more changes to pick up and I am done. Support is little to no help. No that the guy on the phone didn't work his butt off to find me something.

Just go ahead and say it. You guys at Lotus Don't get it when it comes to users and such. You never have. Hanover looks like a great new thing, but really will it stand up to Outlook and all of it's features? I hope so, but you have to wonder.

I sit here and read all the posts on this tread, thought not as thick as others, but none the less there are post.

I also see what Lotus is doing right now. This is a very confusing time for Lotus and it's users like me. There are a few open holes in what is coming from Lotus. I get most of it but it's still confusing. Can't wait for ED to show up here in CO.

What is the Lotus Plug in for Linux? Plugs into what?

When is the Designer Plug in for Eclipse coming and will it work on Linux and the MAC?

Will Hannover be Windows Only? If yes then why? Why would you do that to us again?

Is Sametime 7.5 for Windows Only?

I know you are starting to hate my post but can you imagine how tired I get of saying it and get back the same resposes from everyone at Lotus....? I am a user and I want things and for some reason everyone is ignoring us right now. I don't for one second think IBM has the users in mind when it comes to Hannover. I think it's all about trying to beat MS at the game they have owned for years, the Digial Organizer: Outlook?

Sorry Guys I got way off topic. I am sure this will be followed by a call from my local IBM rep or Ed.

Only 12 more changes and I am done with this Mac.